Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Opinions expressed in this episode are personal. They do not necessarily reflect the views of this streaming platform.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Good day, everyone, and welcome to another edition of let's Be Diverse. I am your host, Andrew Stout. This episode is dedicated to all my loved ones who supported me through this journey.
Today's topic is something really interesting, something that I've thought about for a while, and it's called inner. The topic is inner work.
My guest today is Nancy Gentle Boudre. Welcome to the show, Nancy. We're so pleased to have you on today.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: Oh, thank you so much, Andrew. I'm so glad to be a part.
[00:00:46] Speaker B: It's. It's one of those things where we just look forward to something. I've been looking back at schedule and I couldn't believe last week that it was. It was today, so.
[00:00:57] Speaker A: I know. Pretty cool.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: Pretty cool.
[00:00:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:59] Speaker B: Time just flies by. How are things with you? What's going on? What's new? Give us the deets, give us the tea, give us it all. What's going on?
[00:01:09] Speaker A: Well, it. It's summertime. So summer is such a beautiful blend of, of all the things that I love. Summer is my favorite season.
And so I'm out in the sun, beaching it, hiking.
So a little blend of fun time, seeing family, friends as well as work. And really, as far as work's concerned, I use this slower time of the year to really reflect on who my client base is, who I want to serve, making sure I am staying on task with who I want, you know, not getting distracted with shiny objects. And really I use it as a very good reflective time. So this year I've really started putting and changing some languaging on my website and some verbiage in how I present myself on LinkedIn, the social medias, really, to tailor what I've discovered over the last year up, you know, even 2023, to really help those that I feel I can best serve and add value. So that's what this summer is all about.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: I love all that. And yes, I am a summer guy as well. I love to be outside. I'm, you know, winter, I'm not that guy.
I go outside when I have to, but if I don't have to, I don't go out.
So I try to be outside as much as possible and enjoy it as much as I can in the summertime. I will barbecue in the winter, but as far as that goes out there.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: And do the grill, it is, it's. Yeah, but that's about the extent of it in the winter and I'm A big fire. So I make the fire and I, we have a regular fireplace. So I started from scratch and I am just, I love a good fire going and sitting on the weekends and watching sports. I love football or American football and, and just reading a good book and hunkering down because it gets cold here, so.
[00:03:18] Speaker B: Oh, it sure, it sure, it sure does. And I, you know, you're someone after my own heart. I'm an NFL fan as well. So I, that's pretty much my Sundays. So kind of looking forward, I know that the summer is kind of ending, which is kind of disappointing, but I know that, you know, as it gets into September, that's when, you know, the good stuff starts. So it's kind of like a double edged sword, I guess you could say. Well, I'm glad to hear that everything is going well and with you and that you're enjoying the weather and you know, and making some plans for the business and stuff like that. So that's pretty cool. Before we begin, I always have a fun, thought provoking question to ask my guests to get things going. Are you ready for yours today, Nancy?
[00:04:09] Speaker A: I am.
[00:04:11] Speaker B: Wonderful. So this is a question that I asked another guest a few weeks ago and I thought this would be perfect for you today. So I thought I would ask it. So your question is, is if someone told you he was a chronic liar, would you believe them? So if he or she, if he or she said to you, that is.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Great, that's a good one.
Yes, I think I'd believe him. I would believe him. I've seen it all in my coaching and I'm a borderline therapist, although I know my positioning on that. I stay in my lane. I'm really not a trained therapist, but I would say yes because I've seen it all. I've seen people tell me there's no good in me. I'm a bad seed.
I've heard it all. I think if somebody turned around and said, jan, I'm a chronic liar, I think he'd be telling me or she would be telling me that to help them. I really do.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: To work with them. Yeah, that totally, that, that makes total sense to me. I, I love your answer. That makes absolute sense to me. Thank you so much for having fun with me and, and with your, with your great thought, thought out answer. I love it.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: Why don't we, if he was a chronic liar, do you think he's telling the truth?
[00:05:27] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. So why don't we start off with you telling us a little about you, your little about Yourself, your story and your why.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: So it started. I owned a very thriving insurance agency back in. I purchased it in 1991. The transaction went through, I think, in 1992. And when I got it, it was about 300,000 in written premium, a small office. I turned it around in about 10 years, just shy of 10 years, and sold it. And it was creating about 5.5 million or something like that in written premium. And I say that not to tout my own horn, but also with. When you have a business and you're a business owner, and we all know, you know, I'm sure there's people in the audience that can attest to this. If you don't have the tools in your toolbox to navigate your stress levels, your levels of burnout, and you're an overachiever like I am, and thrive actually on stress, being challenged. I was the energizer bunny on steroids. So I had like three offices, just thriving, rocking it. But I started having physicality. I started having things happening in my body. And, you know, it just, it kept seeming to escalate. And I would go to doctor's appointments, blood work, all kinds of specialists, and every time when they didn't know what the answer was, they would come back and say, what are your stress levels? And I'm like, well, doesn't everybody have stress? I mean, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm a mother, I'm a wife, I'm active in my community, I'm active in my church, running a thriving business. What do you want from me?
And it just kept being this, you know, but what it did was it set me on a path of reflection. And I started thinking about, I had achieved everything I ever dreamed of. I had it all. But why was I battling physicality and at times feeling very empty inside? And so I, I would say to myself, gosh, you know, I'm a faith filled person. I'd be like, God gave me everything. Why am I not happy? And I was living what I would call the American dream. But whose dream was that? So it set me in a path to begin to explore. And I'll never forget a teacher or a nurse told me she was exhausted and wanted to actually give me medication. And I said, I don't want medication. And she goes, well, then go take a yoga class. And I think she just like threw her hands up in the air and said, go take a yoga class. And I said, really? She's like, yeah. So I went to a yoga class and it was like opening Pandora's box. It was like, you know, just one thing after another. And I went up to the instructor and said, hey, you know, I'm having problems with this pose or that pose. I've been a dance all my life for 13 years. When I was young. Why can't I do these poses? And she began to talk to me about the chakra system and all these things about my nervous system. And it was like, check, check and check. And I'm like, you got all that from a yoga pose? I mean, like, what the heck is this stuff? And so that ended up being my life raft, all those Eastern philosophies. And so it really set me on a path to create the business that I have now, Awaken With Light. Because people began asking, nancy, it looks like you've made a transformation. People even thought I had a facelift. And it was like I was literally shedding all this stress, shedding all this excessive worry, perfectionism, all that stuff. And the entrepreneur in me turned it into another business. So I sold my insurance agency and went down the path to create Awaken with Light, the coaching business that I have now.
[00:09:42] Speaker B: Isn't it funny how we always find ways to transition into another thing, or finding ways to. Or looking at it and transitioning and moving forward, knowing what we've knew, doing what we were doing before, and then taking that and all the lessons that we learn and pushing them into the next phase of our lives. Like, I. It's so amazing to me how people could do that.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: Watch your own evolution. Because even when I set this up out of the basement of my home in 2003 or something like that, it wasn't the model that it is today. And it's like you just allow yourself to evolve and grow. And just like I was talking about, this summer is a time of reflection. I've had the same model since 2018, and it was time for refreshment, refreshing it to bring it up to, you know, to meet some things that I have been doing over the last three or four years since COVID And, you know, that we're always evolving and changing. We kind of, you know, personal growth, personal development, ever changing, always evolving.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: And some people were so afraid to evolve. Some people were so afraid to. To change because of, you know, oh, this was working, or it's been working for so many years. So I don't want to do that. But why not adapting it or why not making just this minor tweak in it just to fix things? And you might notice a little bit something different. I know, I've done some minor little tweaks in myself and in my pro thought process and the way I do things and the way I communicate with people. I've done a little bit of a tweak and I feel like it's better for myself and I feel so much better. And I feel like I'm being me. I'm not right. I'm not pretending to be somebody else. I'm. I'm me and exactly, that's who I am.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: That's what I think. Inner work is so beneficial and it's not for the non courageous. You know, when you get in there and you start looking at yourself, we're our worst criticism. So you know, when we refer to inner work, you know, you're talking about really understanding how you tick. And again, that's for the courageous individual. And I really am big on mindfulness as a big piece of that. Because the reason why I like mindfulness is because it teaches a person to look at themselves with curiosity and non judgment, with compassion and kindness. Like you would help a dear friend. You wouldn't kick a dear friend when they were down. Why do we kick ourselves?
So it's. But there's definitely an art to going in there and really self exploring and self developing and really growing.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: So I love that you mentioned inner work on our topic today.
I want to go a little bit deeper. So you did kind of talk a little bit about what it is. But I want to know in your thought process a little bit deeper, what does it mean? What does inner work mean?
[00:12:55] Speaker A: Sure. So the way I come at it, I blend mindfulness, some neuroscience, some spirituality, and the understanding of positive psychology and vibrational energy. So I'm going to probably touch on all of those as we really dive in. Because to me, inner work is understanding. First and foremost, your emotions create thoughts and your thoughts create perceptions. And nine times out of 10, those perceptions are not facts. So and that's what you react or respond based on that perception. And then if we respond and we keep reacting the same way, we create beliefs, patterns in our lives. So when I go to explore and do inner work, I really begin with understanding the emotional current, understanding what emotion am I feeling in the present moment and again with that love and compassion and kindness. But teaching you to be the observer, most people are not connected to their emotions. We've, we've actually learned to turn them off.
We think that we turn them off in business. We think we need to turn them off in various different situations or we've done it as A coping skill. So I really teach people that emotions aren't meant to be. It's not a place of residence. Emotions ebb and flow, they change, they come and go and they're emotions that are scary. And we don't like things that are uncomfortable. So it's being able to take the uncomfortable and distance yourself or detach so that you are the observer. I tell people it's like you're sitting in the movie seats and you're watching this scary movie and you're like, oh my God, oh my God. Don't come around that. You know, it's the same kind of. I want that kind of distance where you're. Or don't do that. Oh my God, you did that. Oh, you know, I want to be able to be the observer. You're going to make mistakes, you're going to do things that don't feel good. You're going to do things that make you feel fabulous. And I want you to be able to observe it all, take it all in, but attach to nothing. I want you to not. It's not being aloof but it's being able to see it for what it is and becoming very, very self aware in a specific way so that we can shed those conditions, shed patterns, release things that don't serve us and beliefs because we've all got that inner voice that's just sitting in there, tearing us up all the time. And you want to go that little voice in my head, stop it. Like, I'm not going to listen to you today. No, you don't. You're not adding value. You're only hurting me.
[00:15:51] Speaker B: So interesting to me when you talk about your inner voice and what, you know, most people, what they turn. Most people turn emotion into something else. And it's very interesting to me because I could see like, why do people do that? Like why, why do you think people, why do you think people just kind of think. It's almost like they're thinking the worst before. And I do that. I'm, I am a huge, I'll put my hand up there. I'm huge for that in certain situations. I will admit it. I'll be vulnerable here today to all listeners and say I am sometimes the, a big, big, big, big, big proponent of that.
[00:16:38] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we are what we call negative wired, so it's called negativity bias.
We, it takes, we have to hold a positive feeling for 12 to 20 seconds for it to become a long term memory. A negative one lodges immediately into long term memory. So that's why we tend to grab for worst case scenario because of either past or. I've had clients like, I had one that had an epiphany.
She talked about her parents always, you know, saying, don't do. You know, have you ever, you know, remember when you were a child and they say, don't play with that, you know, poke your eye out, you know, or don't do that because you'll freeze to death. You know, it was like the worst thing they. And they wanted to keep you safe, so they did that. Yeah, well, she. She recognized that her parents did that all the time. So everything was catastrophized. And she had extreme anxiety.
And so she would hear the voice, you know, you're going to hurt. You know, it's this extreme.
And we had been talking about it, but she saw it in action when she was with her nephew, and they were doing the exact thing that they did to her, to her nephew and just being themselves, you know, don't play with that. You're going to poke your eye out or you're going to do this. And that's why I think it's very neat when you start doing this work. She was like, oh, my gosh, this is where I get that. So when she. And not that, you really need to find the origin, you really don't. But it does help when it reveals itself because then you're able to just look at it and go, so this is that voice in my head that has started probably in vitro, for gosh sakes. And I'm just calling up a memory. I am calling up something I have memorized, an emotion I've memorized. And we have to actually go, no, I'm not going to listen to that. So, you know, getting back to my example of being the Energizer Bunny on steroids, I mean, during commercials on football, I'm getting up, I'm putting a load of laundry in. I'm doing the dishes. Finally, one day I was like, going, can't you just sit, girl, and watch the football game? Why do you think you have to be productive? It's like that voice in my head, programming, you know, get shit done, man. Get stuff done. You got. You got to get that stuff done. And it's like, no, this is my relaxing time. I'm going to sit here, I'm going to enjoy the fire. I'm going to watch this football game. The laundry will wait. You know, the dishes will wait. Just if I want to take a pause, take a pause.
So same kind of thing. It Says that crazy voice in our head.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: So how do, how does one start inner work?
[00:19:38] Speaker A: I think some of the best ways to begin is. So when I coach, I start with really teaching people how to explore.
I call it open awareness. Just viewing your emotions, checking out. I have charts where I show people how some emotions are contracted, some are expansive, where do I spend most my time? So at the very beginning, I think it's wonderful to do some self reflecting, you know, explore what your triggers are. Explore things that change you from this emotion to that emotion. Notice the thoughts that are passing through and the perceptions you're forming. Notice when you have knee jerk reactions as opposed to thought out responses. So you can use specific tools and techniques like mindful techniques, like the open awareness and getting, you know, dialing into your emotions. And so I think you begin with that self reflection. Most people don't like to journal. I think journal is a fabulous tool. But again, a lot of people, I'm met with resistance on that and they always think they have to write in complete sentences. You're looking for emotions, you're just trying to understand where you are. And I think mindfulness, you know, types of meditation, types of exercise like yoga, qigong, these are all fabulous tools to help you on this journey. You know, of self exploration, reading books, going to workshops, training with renowned leaders, then seeking support from a coach, a mentor therapist that specializes in what seems to be resonate with you. Like when I started the journey with yoga, yoga led me to meditation, which led me to Reiki. So I'm a Reiki master and teacher. I big on energy work.
And these are all tools that I just have resonated and find so helpful in my, you know, desire to have overall wellness.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: So many things I want to pack in here. So I sure love when you're saying exploring so or exploring what our triggers are.
[00:22:04] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: I love that because I think we can take that in so many different instances in our personal life and very much so in our work lives that there's so many triggers that can develop during a day that you take those triggers with you and they're hard to, to get rid of. So it's amazing to me that you said that. And I, you know, I think about people who, who, who struggle with that and you know, when they say, oh, I had such a bad day, well, why'd you have that bad day? Well, it could be that a lot of things triggered those emotions.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Or they're afraid to show the emotion or be vulnerable, so they keep the triggers to themselves without talking about it with somebody. So definitely could see the two, two situations very easily.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah, Triggers are just a fascinating animal, right. It's, it's a, you know, when we start doing the inner work on ourselves and we start exploring again with compassion and kindness. Being the observer. Curiosity, non judgment. I have to emphasize that because you want to watch it like you're watching a movie. Interesting how I went from, you know, being nice, nice. Then this person said this and you unleashed the beast. Right. Or I became suddenly defensive with my spouse and we're now in a big old fight. Right. So it's interesting to watch. And we tend to say, well, you shouldn't have said that. You shouldn't have done that.
You can't control the other person. All you can control is this side of the fence.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: So it's understanding your triggers if it sets you in, you know, from dialing 1 to 5. And now I'm ready to unleash the beast. I need to take a pause. I need to understand why.
And maybe you're valid, maybe it's valid, but you need to do it in a articulate, commutative way versus just unleash the beast.
You know, when you say that to me, that is hurtful. Well, I didn't mean it. Well, you're taking, you're making a mountain out of a Mohill. This will, you know, but you want to stay very level headed as you're trying to articulate how, you know, using the example of like a spouse that makes you feel. But you can't do it from a place of reactionary. You have to do it from a place of exploration. So you understand. Wow, you just triggered whether it doesn't matter whether you think it's right or, you know, I made a mountain out of a molehill. You know, I can't expect you to show up a certain way. So I feel better.
I can only take the person that's there and then figure out how to articulate, navigate that dynamic and work on what that trigger is. Triggers are just a facet, I think they're the, the. And they're also the hardest. Right. The things that set us off. So.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: Such amazing things that you have that you'd said there. And I love the journaling too. I think that's something that I have thought about and I know there's a lot of people that don't like to do it and I, I get it. I've thought about even just doing it. Like you say, you don't have to write a novel. You can even just Write stuff in point form just to get stuff out. And I do notice that when I do write stuff down or do something on my laptop and putting it on a word doc, I do feel a little bit better because I'm getting it written out and I can read back. Yeah, that stuff. I've even gone as far as, even to write some letters to people.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:26:10] Speaker B: That, that have never get sent.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:14] Speaker B: And. And they're. And I have no intentions of sending them.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: But I've sent, I've written it out. And for me, it's kind of like a. It's a way for me to be a little bit vulnerable, but also to kind of like let it go. And once I've done that, I've felt so much better because I. I've said what I needed to say. I don't have to say it to that person, but I've said what I needed to say. And for me, it worked for sure.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And the key here is just be patient with ourselves, you know, be that kind. It's, you know, it's a, it's a journey, not a destination.
And it could be the, you know, self growth and self development. I always tell people it's kind of like self discovery, self development, and then self evolution and just know you're on a journey, not a destination.
Slow and steady wins the race. Right. It's just be. You might think you've healed something and it's net, you know, and that, that I healed a long time ago, and then suddenly something triggers it and brings it back up. I just had one of my clients and I said, don't you see? You. You process this grief. And now this is a new form of grief. So what it did was it opened up the death of this person. You know, it opened up Pandora's box. And so that's. She goes, but I already healed that. And I'm like, don't you. But this is a new. And it's another form of grief, and it just activated the old grief.
And, you know, so we're constantly evolving. We just have to be, you know, patient with ourselves and most of all, kind on ourselves.
[00:27:57] Speaker B: Can we do too much or can someone do too much inner work?
[00:28:01] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. So I interviewed in a podcast on Voice America had years ago, a gentleman. Bob Butera has written a couple of books and we talked about spiritual bypassing. Well, it's a, it's a deep word, but it is. People can be so spiritual, so busy going to spiritual retreats and doing so much inner work that they are bypassing processing and living on this plane. So I absolutely do believe that's one type of too much work. Too much work is constantly being critical on yourself. Right. Just constantly thinking you're something to improve. There's something broken. There's nothing broken. It's you are who you are and you're always striving to be the best you can be.
And then the other is playing out, neglecting your responsibilities, your relationships because you're such on a quest for self. It can almost become self absorbing. So every, like anything, it's all about finding the balance.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: I've always said to myself, or I've always called myself a lifelong learner.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:16] Speaker B: And I feel like because, because of that I've always wanted to learn and always wanted to get better. But I what caught my attention when you said that we can like I'm thinking of doing too much. I think you have to have a reason for it.
[00:29:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:37] Speaker B: So if you are saying you're a lifelong learner. Well, why am I a lifelong learner?
[00:29:41] Speaker A: Walls?
[00:29:42] Speaker B: Because I want to, I want to continue to learn. Things are ever changing, so I want to keep up with the times. But if you are, let's say in a work setting and you are saying, listen, I have, you know, I gotta.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: Go get this certification. Yeah, certification. Because they're never satisfied with just being, you know, it's like you've got to be an expert in everything. And I'm telling people, you know, I have some of those, it's like, oh, well, I'm gonna go get. I'm like, you have enough. If there's something that really speaks that. But you know, some people are in constant mode of trying to please the invisible person. Maybe it was their parent or whatever. And so it's all about understanding why. It's, you know, why am I taking, why am I, you know, it's a beautiful thing to constantly, you know, want to be the proverbial learner. And you know, I love to read books and I'm always, I do some. I have a spiritual book going at all times. And I have, when I say spiritual, it's all that self development stuff. And then I have a fun novel, you know, that I have going. And, but you know, it's when is enough Check in. And like if you're doing it to get ahead or you get, then when is enough. Because maybe you're chasing something and you're never going to be fulfilled.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: Well, I think too like when you're thinking about learning something new, you know, you could be At a critical stage, or you're thinking, or you're. You mentioned we're catastrophizing. You're catastrophizing that, oh, if I don't learn this, then I'm gonna, you know, be out of this position or, yes, I won't be able to do this job or what have you. So I don't think that that's the right time to be looking at that. I think it's, you know, the right time is to be, you know what, this interests me and I want to learn more about it. So this is what I'm going to do. Not, you know, and there are some.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: Professions you have to. Gosh, especially it. I have for sure. God, you're constantly. Got it. But again, it's. Yeah, like we were talking about, it's just really checking in and you know, like anything you can, you could be the, you know, over learner, the over worker, outer. You could be, you know, wins enough.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. So how do you think your hometown or city you grew up in molded you into the person that you are today?
[00:32:26] Speaker A: Oh, it definitely has an influence. The people around you growing up, the people that, the environment you're in.
As I reflect on my upbringing, I know that so my parents always were my biggest cheerleaders. I am very blessed that I was not criticized. I, you know. Yes, was I, you know, at times not a good student could have done better. My dad would say something like, I'm disappointed. When he would say disappointed, it was like stabbed me in the heart. Right. You know, but, but that overall supportive. I'm grateful for that because in the coaching business that I am, I've noticed, you know, people that weren't supportive and how they have to overcome those kind of hurdles. I have my own hurdles. I have things of self worth. I have, you know, other hurdles that, that are just from your environment. I was in a very competitive high school. Lots of people, high intelligence, lots of people doing all the activities that I was in. And I wasn't always the best. I wasn't even close to being the best. So you, you know, you're processing, you know, as you start evolving and growing.
I can be the best at what I can be. Rather than hedging to reduce your disappointment, let's say.
So I do think those environments, they shape your values, they shape your beliefs, your community plays a part in that.
But the one thing is, I do believe because of some of my challenges as a young girl, I even wrote about it in my gentle mindful moment this past week. You know, we're being judgmental. I'm really, you know, slotting people to be a certain way and act a certain way, and if you look a certain way, then you're going to be this. And I don't think people did it in harm, but I recognized that it molded when I said I was living the American dream, but whose dream am I living? That was hurting. You know, they literally go, okay, this is what you do. This is what you do, you know, and. But some people have wherewithal early in their life to get out of that herd, right, and live their own life. But. So I definitely think those challenges, they, they built resilience in me. They built determination, perseverance, you know, because I wanted to rise and, and, and succeed in life.
So, you know, I think you. You take the good and the bad, but I definitely believe your home life, your community, all that directly affects, you know, the person you are today.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: You mentioned the word supportive. Like, from, like. That word demonstrates the other words. Yes, resilience, perseverance, but supportive. If I was going to say something that would. That I would think of you, and if someone said to me, you know, pick one word for Nancy, I would say supportive. That's the word that I would pick for you, because you were just that person. And I see that with you, whether it be on social media or whatever, you were super supportive to anybody that you're in contact with. And I think that's what resonates, and I think that's what gravitates people to you, is that they. They know that they have you have their back and you're gonna help them out as much as possible. So I. I do love when you said that right away. That made me think of me right away.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: They actually instilled that. That's beautiful. And that's an aha moment for me, because it was instilled even as a young, young girl, that my parents always had my back. Even though I might have disappointed them, done some crazy things, gotten in trouble, you know, whatever it was, at the end of the day, they always had my back. And I'm grateful for that. And it's neat that I'm paying that forward, because I would say that's. I'm the biggest cheerleader to anybody who's in my inner world. I'm cheering them on, and I love celebrating other people's success. I love watching them become in the limelight. I've had people that were nobody that became famous or they became, you know, that I've mentored and Coached. And there's nothing more rewarding than to watch them fulfill their dreams.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: You are a humble leader, which is, to me, it's huge. I'm huge on humility.
Yes, we can celebrate that. But yes, I rather celebrate like, I'm like you. I'll celebrate others before I'll celebrate myself. And when someone says something about me, I'll be like, yes, well, thank you. Well, it's because of this. And sometimes we have to kind of take, you know, that, be humble and say, oh, thank you so much for that. And I. We have to get better at that. But yes, when you're. When you're so humble, you know, I'm not one to say, oh, well, of course, of course you think like that. Well, that's. That's just not me.
I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe that you actually would think of that, of me. Like, that is so. That is so nice to hear. Thank you so much.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: I know I have to stop and say thank you because my first thing is to say thank you, you know, and it's like. Or, you know, my pleasure, or, you know, that kind of thing. I'm right with you.
It's a learned art that. Not to deflect that. That compliment.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: Absolutely.
Any final thoughts today?
[00:38:22] Speaker A: I think that the biggest one, as we wrap up and we talk about inner work and everything, my slogan or tagline for my business is live a life you design, not one of default. And if I could give one piece of Advice, whether you're 8 or 90, do your best to really live a life you design, not one of default. And recognize you always have choice. You might. It might be a Mount Everest climb for you, but you have choice. And there are people out there that will support you and cheer you on and help you to achieve your goals and your desires. So create the life you design and don't default to just going through emotions. You've got something to give the world, so give it.
[00:39:18] Speaker B: I want to take the time to thank you for coming on today. You are one special individual. I think so highly of you. From the moment that we met and I continue to do so, you've been so inspiring to me. Your words are very inspiring to me. They keep me going and especially on days, you just seem to have a knack of saying the right things at the right time and those day. And there's certain days where you read it and you actually need it. So thank you so much for being that person, that individual, and thank you so much for. For coming on today. I think this was such a great conversation and I, I truly admire you and I truly admire our time today.
[00:40:06] Speaker A: Thank you so much, Andrew. It was such a pleasure.
[00:40:09] Speaker B: Thank you so much. So on behalf of myself and my guest, Nancy, I'd like to thank you all for listening today. And until next time, be safe. And remember everybody, that if we all work together, we can accomplish anything.
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