Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Opinions expressed in this episode are personal.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: They do not necessarily reflect the views.
[00:00:05] Speaker A: Of this streaming platform.
[00:00:10] Speaker B: Good day, wonderful people, and welcome to another edition of let's Be diverse. I am your host, Andrew Stout. This episode is dedicated to all my loved ones who supported me through this journey. Those who have left us will always be in our hearts and will never be forgotten. Today, our topic is leading on the field, coach coaching, tactics that drive results. And our guest today is someone that I've known for a very long time. I'm so happy to have on today, Dale Williams. Dale, thanks so much for joining us today.
[00:00:36] Speaker A: Hey, Andrew, thanks for having me. Really appreciate you taking the time of reaching out. So, really looking forward to this.
[00:00:42] Speaker B: You're very, very welcome, Dale. What's going on in your world? Give me the tea, the deets. Give me it all. What's going on in your world, buddy?
[00:00:49] Speaker A: Man, you know, life has been busy, you know, in the midst of trying to be the best dad that I can be or even better, the best girl dad that I can be. You know, coaching all their sports, being Mr. Mom right now and spending time at home with the kids, especially during this holiday season and staying pretty busy.
[00:01:07] Speaker B: It sounds like you've got a lot going on there, and everybody seems to be busy around this time of year. So it's. It's so amazing to hear that you're. That you're doing some great things. And I talk a lot about different types of leadership. We'll get into that in this conversation today. But one of the things that I talk about as far as leadership goes, I mentioned is parent leadership, because I do believe that parents are leaders leaders because they're kind of trying to mold their children into the people or the individuals that they would like to see them be as they grow up. So if you're doing a good job, then they should turn out to be good leaders and good pillars in their organizations, in their cities where they live in, whatever you decide to do. So it sounds like you're doing a great job.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: I'm trying to, you know, and it's great that you said that. You know, we are trying to mold our kids into stuff. And, you know, I'm super fortunate that I have two young girls and I have one that, you know, just started high school and she's very active in sports and, you know, just trying to give her little tidbits here of, you know, what it's like to be a leader on the team and things like that. So it's. It's been pretty great.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: Absolutely. Well, listen, I'm glad to hear that things are going well with you. I'm so excited to get into this conversation today. But before we begin, I always have a fun thought provoking question that I ask all my guests to get things going. Are you ready for yours today, Dale?
[00:02:24] Speaker A: I don't have a choice, Andrew. So yeah, I gotta be ready.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: And there's. I always tell my guests there's no right or wrong answer, but I love to hear the guest answer. Your question today is there are people who believe the world is really flat. How would you convince them it isn't?
[00:02:40] Speaker A: All right, now you're saying thought provoking. So I can't give the super easy answer. You know how I would let them know that it is not flat? I think I would probably have to let them know that you gotta travel and see the world and the first thing would be here probably in our country and send them out to Vancouver and then let me know after they've skied a 450 meter if the world is still flat.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: That is a very good answer. And you don't think about it, but you're absolutely right. When especially you go to Vancouver and then go up to Alberta area or Jasper and you see all these friggin beautiful mountains. Yes, absolutely. I definitely would say it's, it's not flat for sure.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Unless you live in Winnipeg or Regina.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: Yeah, and I live in Regina. And it is, it is, I will say it is flat. There are some parts where there's roads, where there's hills, but there is no mountains or anything like that. So it is, I would say it's flat.
They joke in for people who are not familiar with Regina, but they usually say if anybody lives in Saskatchewan, you could let your dog out in the backyard and they could run for, for miles and miles probably to another province and, and not. And not have to run up a hill. So that is the running joke. But it is what it is. So we live where we live and that's how it goes.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: Well, listen, thanks so much for having fun with me. I love your answer. Why don't we start off, Dale, with you telling us a little bit, a little bit about yourself and I'd love to hear about your why.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: Well, so been fortunate enough and blessed enough that I've been, you know, within the marketing world for the last 25 years. Expanded when I was, started when I was 22.
I guess I'm about to divulge that answer. But now 47, but it's been an unbelievable 25 years that I've had and, you know, learning about different businesses and marketing, not through just sports, but, you know, through. Through different silos, like retail, through different silos, like fashion. And I. I can't tell you how lucky I've been to have had different experiences, but all within the realm of marketing. I think my why has definitely it's changed over the years. I don't think you can have a why that lasts the whole lifetime. I think when I was.
My why was because I wanted to make money, you know. You know, in my fees. My why was because I wanted to be able to provide for my family, being a young parent.
And I think now my why is to pay it forward.
I think that is my biggest why right now is I think I continue to do this and. And things like that is because I think we don't pass it forward enough. And I think those who have been fortunate enough to have great experiences need to share those experiences, especially if they're positive. Because if you can share a positive experience with someone and pay it forward and show them and keep them on the right path, only good things happen. And I think that, you know, in this world, we do a lot of gatekeeping. We want to keep everything to ourselves, and we don't want to pass it on for fear or insecurity that, you know, the person that we try to help may take our job, or the person that we heal might try to take our idea. But I think that if you're confident and you have faith in yourself and you do what you need to do, paying it forward is the right thing, because it will come back in spades.
[00:06:02] Speaker B: I love that answer. And what stuck out with me when you said that you've changed over the years. And I would say that that's a very good leadership quality that you have there, Dale, because you can look back and you can see what was important to you at certain ages or certain stages of your life.
And I believe that leaders do that as well, especially in an organization. They see what's going on and that time period, and then they have to adjust accordingly as far as what's going on, what's happening around the world, what's. What's in, what's out. So I love that you talk about that, because I think that is super important.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: No, it is. And I think if you. If you don't evolve, then what are we doing here? Like, you know, it's easy just to sit and do the same thing all the time. And, you know, I think we've all heard this if you keep on doing the same thing that you've always done, you're always going to get the same result. So if you want to switch things up, do something different. And I think that, you know, it's okay to evolve and it's okay to do something. It's okay to drive, you know, new ideas. I think that I was very. I was a person maybe 10 years ago that's very, very set in my ways. But through the transitions that I've had, I've realized how important it is to evolve and to always understand that you might not know everything. And guess what? It's okay.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: It is okay.
So, Dale, sports and leadership, as far as I'm concerned, share a lot of common ground. What do you think leaders can learn from the mindset of elite coaches?
[00:07:34] Speaker A: How to do things right. I've had my opportunity of being with. With having numerous opportunities, and, you know, I've learned how to do things the right way, and then I've learned how not to do things. And I think, you know, being a coach, whether it be sports or in business, it's again, going back to what we just said, passing on the experience that you have.
And if there's an experience that you don't have, learn about it or do something to get it so that you can continue to pass it on.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: Great comments there and a great answer there. I love when you're saying how we do things right and how not to do things and.
And you mentioned earlier about learning things as you grew up, and I'm sure you could look back and you could probably say, hey, I know when I was 22 or 23, I thought I was doing this. I thought it was the right way. But, you know, thinking back, now that I'm in my 30s, I was doing it that way, but in reality, it really wasn't. And I didn't see it that way, like you said, because you were talking about, I just want to make money. At 22. Now you kind of realize, okay, what is more important and how. You mentioned the word evolve and. And passing on your.
So you definitely grow throughout your career and throughout life as a leader and as a coach. So definitely a correlation there, for sure.
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Yeah. I think that, you know, this generation is changing. And, you know, you know, I said to you before that, you know, I coach. I coach young kids right now.
The young kids that we have currently right now in this environment, in this climate aren't the same that they were 25 years ago when I was 12 years old. And the way that I either went through school or I went through sports. And the way that I was coached is not necessarily how it's done now. I think we are in a climate that is a little bit more sensitive, that is a little bit more judgmental in terms of how do we coach not just kids, but how do we coach people from work? And I think that, you know, if I could take. The most important thing is that as, as an elite coach is you have to be able to not only adapt to the climate, but you have to adapt to each and every person on your team. You can't coach one person the same way that you coach the other. You might be able to push one of your players or your employees a little bit harder because that's how they work. But then the other one may need a little bit more support and a little bit less autonomy and to be able to hold their hand through it. So if you cannot be a chameleon, you're going to have a tough time. And again, that is in business and in sports. So they really do tie together.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: So what you mentioned, it's a great segue to my next question that I wanted to ask you. Me.
So coaches are constantly adapting. And I know you might have answered this in the last question, but I want to go a little bit more in depth here. Coaches constantly adapt mid game. What does adaptability look like for leaders in fast changing workplaces?
[00:10:42] Speaker A: I would have to say that. I think you just said it too. It's the agility. You know, I've been in situations where, perfect example, I was, I was working with a company and we, we worked in fashion and in the world of fast fashion, we were more tied to being a business casual and, and suiting provider. And what happens, you know, in 2020, we go into a pandemic. Everyone's at home. No one is going to work anymore. The whole fashion world's turned upside down. No one's wearing suits, no one's wearing shirts, no one's wearing ties. And you know, for a company that 85% of their business was that we had to adapt extremely quickly. And when you talk about being agile, we were able to really turn around our position of who we were in the market to going too casual, making it business casual casual. So you know what, it's not a shirt and tie, but you still have a zoom call. So how do we, how do we casualize and professionalize casual? And we were able to do that. And if you don't have the right people that have the right mindset to figure out how to pivot, then you're in trouble. And I was fortunate enough that I worked with people that had great ideas, and we were able to pivot seamlessly and, and still continue to have success. And. And we were. We were fortunate again, to be able to not feel in the bottom line.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. And, yeah, it. Do you. When you say the word agility. Yes, absolutely. We have to be agile. We have to be able to go with the times, we have to go with the flow. And are we looking at the dress code? Are we looking at, you know, getting the information out and, and coming up with fresh and new ideas during that time that we're together? What. What's important?
[00:12:30] Speaker A: Yeah, we could talk about things like that forever because, you know, I have a certain thought process in terms of, you know, working what you wear and, and how you present. Believe me, I think everyone wants to look good, but I still think we put a little bit too much stock into what everyone is wearing versus exactly listening to the message. I think a perfect example is, you know, when people say, I know that you can hear me, but are you actually listening to me?
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:55] Speaker A: And I think that, you know, we need to do that a little bit more.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: I love that you had said that. And, you know, going off a little bit of our topic here, there have been some leaders that I have worked with that you could talk to them, but they were actually not listening to you. They were not looking at you. They were punching their fingers on the keyboard and doing something or saying an email while you were talking to them. And then I've had leaders where I've walked in, they were doing something on their computer, but they actually turned away from the laptop or computer. They stopped. They looked at you and focused on what you were having to say, because for them, it may not be really important to them, but they feel like if it's important to you, then I need to listen to it and see what. See what we can do to either solve the problem, give feedback, or if I just need to just listen. Just to listen and, and with no response and, and to make that person feel a little bit more confident or feel better, 100%.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: And, you know, I look at the, you know, some of the. The youth teams that I coach, and even with. With my. My team that I had in the office, you know, sometimes I can get very passionate, and I'm not a massive yeller. I have known to yell, but I would not never yell at anyone because I think everyone's an adult. But even when I coach on the field, and I'm yelling out because we're outside, people say, oh, my gosh, you're really loud and you're aggressive. And I said, well, no, I don't want you to listen to the tone. I want you to hear the words that I am saying, because my tone is getting put out of context based on the environment. Is it a loud environment? Is it a quiet environment? Are there lots of things going on? Can my players hear me? Can my employees hear me? So, yeah, things may come across in terms of the tone, maybe harsh, but I don't want you to judge the tone. I need you to listen to the words that are being said, because that's the key of listening to the words and what exactly being said. One parent said to me once, oh, my gosh, you're really aggressive. And I said, why? Said, well, you were yelling on the field.
Yeah. And I yelled, great job. Keep doing what you're doing.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: Right?
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Did you hear that? Or did you just hear the tone? And they said, you know what? I really kind of only heard the tone. And I said, well, you got to listen to the words.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: I absolutely love that. And I think that more and more people need to understand.
I say that all the time, too, Dale. It's not the words. It's the tone.
And that could be from shouting out at being a coach on the sidelines or in an office environment or even in an email. Just the way that you write your email, are we writing it in. In all lowercase letters or are we writing the email in all caps in red letters? That is a totally different meaning to the message that you're trying to get across. So I just love that you had mentioned that. It's. It's super important to me.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: No, for sure. And I think, again, communication, I think at any level is the major key. And I think that, you know, again, in this climate, I don't know if we're doing enough to understand these communication skills. I think it's. It's becoming a lost art. You know, we look at some of. I look at my daughter, you know, I don't let her text me. Like, she's got to come down the stairs and talk to me, right?
[00:16:16] Speaker B: And.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: And communicate with me.
You know, my employees that were sitting four desks down, don't send me a teams. Get up off your chair, Come and look me in the eye and talk to me. And I think that, you know, that's the lost art of building interpersonal skills is. Is a lost art. And frankly, you know, it does Scare me sometimes when I, When I look at this bit of a younger generation that everything's this. I sent you a team's note. And, and, and again, that's part of evolving.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: Right.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: I'm. I'm horrible at checking my teams.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: But I'm really good at getting up from my desk and walking three feet down and having a conversation. And while you're having that conversation, even if you're not talking about anything personal, you're still building a connection in terms of that communication part. So maybe I need to evolve a little bit more and, and follow teams a little bit more. But I still think, again, that, you know, in this world that we're moving to, with, with AI and everything, the most important thing is going to have interpersonal skills, and we cannot lose that.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: Dale, you were talking about my. One of my core values, which is rapport building. And not just coaches, but I feel like a lot of business owners don't do enough of it. And I think this is where the, the.
Where you see success and when you don't see success. And I had a leader that, that I, I talk about it, and I will continue to talk about it.
Old job, when I was like 16 years old, this leader told me, if you are loyal, if you are compassionate, if you, if, and if you work hard, people are gonna either wanna hang out with you, work with you, collaborate with you, or buy from you. And I really feel that that's super important. And like I said, a lot of leaders or business owners don't do enough of it. And I pride myself on that. And I can say that a lot of the stuff that I've been doing or because of it, it has been fruitful. So I will continue to do that. So I love the fact that you. A lot of people would probably say, oh, that's kind of mean, Dale, that you make your daughter do that. But in reality, it is great to do that because you're having a conversation, you're communicating, and communication is the key to everything.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Well, for sure. And again, I don't want my daughter to know that she can only, you know, talk to her friends via text message.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: Right.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: You know, sometimes there are going to be some really dire, straight moments where you're gonna have to have that communication. If, if someone is going through a tough moment in their life, they don't want a text message. They want someone, as you said, to show compassion, empathy, and so that people can understand and see in their eyes that they care. That little type of, you know, discourse changes everything. You Know, for me, I always make sure I call someone when something bad is happening. I always try to give them a little bit of space and, you know, but I've never been the one to just send a text going, I hope everything's okay. I heard what happened. I think you need to call and you need to. To really show that you're there for someone.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And even if it's a quick call, you, you know, or you can say. Or you can send a text message and say, listen, I just tried to call you.
You know, let's have a conversation. When you're. You're. When you're up to it, let me know and I'll give you a shout. Right? So at least you're. They, you know, they see that you've made the attempt, but it's. It's super. It's super important that they know that. And it's just. You're just. You're right. It's just sending a text sometimes. Sometimes people are okay with it. Sometimes, like you said, people need to have that extra care and. Or should be shown that care and compassion. I should say, well, I'd rather show.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: The care and compassion and not have the call answered and leave a voice message so they can hear my voice versus just sending a text. And again, I could be the old school in me, but it's probably not going to change.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: No, probably not. And the same thing with me.
So, Dale, what. What role does accountability play on winning teams? And how do you think leaders can foster that same level of accountability at work?
[00:20:29] Speaker A: I can't talk for a lot of people, but for, again, through my experiences and the opportunities that I've been fortunate enough to have, it's being confident enough to admit your mistakes. And I think that's the first thing in accountability. And I'm far from perfect. But the one thing that I did learn growing up is that if you make a mistake, admitting to it is not a sign of weakness. Again, we look through this. This evolution of businesses where, you know, you could talk to your employees a certain way, you could treat them a certain way.
You can't do that anymore.
And I always say to people, you know, when you're in an interview process, it's not just the company interviewing a personnel. That person is interviewing the company to see if that's the right culture that they want to be a part of. So am I saying it's right, or I'm not saying it's wrong? It's just the situation and the climate that we live in. Right now. And I think that for me personally, I started to learn that probably about 10 years ago, if I made a mistake, I would try to find excuses to say this is what happened, and things like that.
And I realized slowly that people looked at me going, does this guy think he's perfect because he's covering up something that we all saw?
And it's similar to one of my. My young players that I coach in basketball. When she shoots an airball, she literally covers her mouth and she looks around the gym, and I constantly say to her, we all saw you miss that shot.
You can't hide it. You're in a room of a hundred people. You air ball the shot instead of covering your mouth and looking around going, oh, my gosh, did anybody see me own it and keep playing?
And that's the same thing in, in the corporate world, hey, I made a mistake. This is the mistake I made. But the one thing I can tell you right now is I know the mistake that I made. I know how to fix it. And this is how we're going to pivot, and that's what we're going to do. So I think that that's part of that whole accountability of just accepting it. And again, we said it earlier, it's okay to not have all the right answers.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And you mentioned it earlier. You're saying about, you know, I call, obviously it's imposter syndrome, but people are so worried about making a mistake because they feel like, especially with AI coming in, people are so worried about making that mistake that they think, oh, well, they're going to find somebody else to do it because I made that mistake. When in reality, I feel if you don't make. If you, if you're not making mistake, you're probably not trying or you're not putting yourself out there. So I, You're. I am the same thing. Like you, Dale. I've made so many mistakes in my. In my career, and. But I've learned from them.
And am I going to do those mistakes over again? It's a good chance that I'm going to. But you learn, and each time it's a different scenario of why it happened or why things were not on a positive note. So just keep doing it. And just like you said with that player, get back into the play, start doing your things, and if. If it's at work, okay, this is what I did wrong. Next time, we're gonna try it this way. As far as a podcaster, each time I get on the mic in front of a front of a person or in front of a guest or if I guessed, on a podcast, I take little notes and I say, okay, this is what happened the last episode. Well, this time let's try and do this. Or if I get that question again, here's what I'm gonna answer it. I'm gonna answer it this way instead of another way. So we just learn each time.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: Yeah, And I'll probably bury myself by making this comment, but I often encourage my athletes to make a mistake. Yeah, I, I, I often encourage my past employees to make a mistake. Now, obviously, on the corporate side, if you're going to make a mistake, make sure it doesn't cost us half a million dollars.
[00:24:52] Speaker B: Right?
[00:24:52] Speaker A: But, but, but make the mistake, because then that's the only way you can get better. And again, the correlation between sports and business is synonymously as one. You, you can treat it in the same silo as if you make the mistake, you know now how to fix it, and you only get better.
So for me, make the mistakes. That's why I tell a lot of my players and even my employees, if you're not sure about a marketing idea or a strategy that you want to do, do it anyways. There's only one way to find out. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Yep. Obviously, we don't want to hit the bottom line from a corporate standpoint, from, from, from being on the quarter, on the field. You obviously don't want to cost your team the game, but you can only be as good as your last outing.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: It's a learning opportunity. We're always looking for learning opportunities, and that is one perfect example of a learning opportunity. We can only learn from the thing, you know, by trying and getting out there and doing something that we may not we want to do or that we're afraid to do.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: So. Deal. Diversity is increasingly important in both sports and the workplace. Can you share how elite sports teams leverage diversity and inclusion to strengthen performance and what leaders can apply from that?
[00:26:12] Speaker A: So I would.
It's a really good question. So I think I'll probably kind of dive back to where I was.
You know, I spent three years working for a hockey product manufacturer, and that probably would have been the biggest eye opener for myself, as we know, working in hockey. Not. It's, it's now becoming a lot more diverse and inclusive, but it was in a tough spot about three years ago, you know, coming out of the pandemic and things that were happening with, you know, hockey governing bodies and complaints and things like that. And I think that as we continue to include more people and become diverse, it's only good for business. And I'm going to kind of go down this rabbit hole in terms of sport and then corporate. I think on the corporate side, when you look at being inclusive and having people of different backgrounds and including them into the process, it's good for business.
Because if your business is siloed in one thing and you have a certain customer, you already have them.
[00:27:22] Speaker B: Right.
[00:27:22] Speaker A: But if you want to drive revenue and you want to drive the bottom line, you need new customers.
So the only way to get new customers is to diversify the portfolio and find who's your new customer that's going to add new revenue to the bottom line. So at the end of the day, inclusion is just good for business.
And if I take it on to the sports side, now that sports has become a big business, how do you generate more revenue? So if you're hockey and you have a certain demographic, which is probably the largest demographic that we have, yes, you're going to make money. But the more new eyes that you get on your sport, when you go and you see young kids now who are your future customers or your future players coming through, you then drive more eyes. So at the end of the day, when you can include different people from all walks of life, you're going to pull another audience in. And if you do everything properly, you're just going to grow.
And at the end of the day, in sports, you want to be able to have that growth so you continue to be successful, so you have a large pool to pull from. In business, you want to expand your audience because it's new money being generated. So at the end of the day, those who complain or make these comments about, you know, how we're doing things because we have to, because they look a different way to me, is complete bs.
It's good for business. And if people just clear out their ears and look at it for what it is, then everyone will be better off.
[00:29:03] Speaker B: Yep, yep. I think we have to. I think we. A lot of businesses and leaders, I think, forget that or they don't think that, you know, so you have a business, you're probably gonna get those 10, that 10% that's going to repeat sports business, what have you. There's those repeat customers. That's your 10%. You don't have to really worry about those people because they're all, no matter what, like you mentioned, people complaining, they're always going to come back. It doesn't matter. What you're doing, they're always going to come back. But you're absolutely right. You need to continuously evolve. I was watching NFL game yesterday, and I know that they did an episode which they do every year.
They did the NFL game last night, and they did it in Monsters, Inc.
So for kids to watch it, you're watching a live game with the Monsters, Inc. Characters.
A couple years ago, they did the Simpsons.
So of course, these are. Kids are going to watch this, and then they're going to get into it. So you have to. It's an example of how you having to evolve and do things differently so that the younger generation starts watching it. So I know myself, I started watching football when I was 16 years old, and now I'm in my 50s and I still watch football.
So now we need to get people that are in their 15, 16 or even younger, 8, 9, 10 years old that start to watch sports. And I mentioned earlier, sports is evolving. So they're now listening to these figures, these sports figures that are talking about leadership, that are talking about inclusivity, that they're talking about culture. And then they're going to go to talk to their parents. They're going to go, what does this word mean? And why are these players talking about that? And why is it so important? So then we're creating conversations, which is we talked. We were talking about communication before. That is so important as far as the whole grand scheme of things.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. And I think, you know, for myself personally, I am a massive, massive advocate for women in business and women in sport.
And, you know, you. We talk about football. You know, there weren't a lot of women that were, you know, playing tackle football. It still evolves, and there are still a lot of programs. But, you know, the perfect example is flag. Flag football has grown immensely. You know, NFL teams have already invested millions and millions of dollars into it because flag is a sport that any young girl can play without any fear of, you know, the contact and the things like that. And, you know, I coach multiple flags teams, young women, flag teams, and the ability to see them become fans. My daughter started playing flag, didn't really know much about football, now sits on the couch with me on a Sunday afternoon watching football with me because she plays a sport. So now you've brought in another audience into your business who will be a future consumer.
And that is new revenue.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: It certainly is. And they're learning through different schemes, and they're taking what they're learning on the football field into their, you know, so she's going to take that into her future career. Whatever your daughter decides to do, she's going to take that. And the players that you're coaching, they're going to do the same thing. They're going to take that and they're going to take that into their future, whatever they decide to do, and they're going to use all those things that they've learned and take that each time and they're gonna have life lessons. I had a woman who was a guest on my podcast and she was into gymnastics and she used gymnastics in college. She had a scholarship and everything.
And one of the things that she learned from, from being in gymnastics is the technicality. How you just have to be so technical and practice each movement, each jump, each thing. So what did that do? It taught her in her career. Now she's a professor at the University of Florida, and she's taken that from gymnastics.
Teaching is also very technical as well as far as what to teach, how to speak, tone. As you mentioned earlier, it's so important to understand what it comes from. What?
[00:33:25] Speaker A: No, 100%, I, I, I agree with you completely. And like I said, I think that, you know, it's just, it's about Karen. Like, if I have to break it down to the final fundamental, it's about caring.
If you care about people, if you truly, truly do care about people, I believe that's half of it. The technical stuff and all that stuff will come. You'll learn how to technically coach, you'll learn all these techniques.
But if you genuinely care about people, you can be an elite coach for sure.
[00:34:01] Speaker B: Might have just done, done this, but I'm going to give you another opportunity here. Dale, before we wrap up, what is one key takeaway that you'd like our listeners take from this episode?
[00:34:13] Speaker A: I think that anybody can be a leader.
I think that it doesn't matter the age you are, it doesn't matter your experience. Experience. If you have the want to be able to help people, if you have the want to learn and to grow, you can be a leader. For myself, personally, I think that where my growth has come from is from my employees or from my players.
For me to understand and have conversations with them on how do I motivate you? What is it that makes you work?
What is it that doesn't make you work?
Gives me so much more knowledge to now look myself in the mirror, self reflect and go, okay. If I want my team to be able to pull for me and have my back, I have to at minimum listen to what they need and be able to do to the best my abilities and provide that support. And if I can provide that support, I feel confident that my teams will have success.
So at the end of the day, learn from your employees, learn from your players.
Adapt. Add it into your repertoire. When people look at coaching, everyone got something from somebody. Not everyone made this all up. So it's okay to look at successful people and take bits and pieces of things and mold it into yourself. You're not being a copycat. You're just being innovative with who you want to be.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that. I love that. You're, you're absolutely bang on with that. Anybody that's listening. My call to action today would be to like share and follow this episode.
I want to take the time to thank you for coming on today, Dale. I just admire your positivity, your energy and your insightful knowledge. It was a pleasure to to have this conversation with you. So thank you for, for coming on as a guest today.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: Thank you, Andrew. I appreciate it and it was great to catch up.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: You're very welcome. On behalf of myself and my guest today, Dale, I'd like to thank you all for listening. And until next time, be safe. And remember, everybody, that if we all work together, we can accomplish anything you.
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